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Welcome to The Change Room with Rod & Lesley where we talk about how people experience and navigate through change.
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Feb 7, 2024
Feb 7, 2024
24 min
In this episode, Rod and Lesley return! Contrary to news otherwise, the podcast is not retired in the sunset of being a covid era hobby. They are back after almost eight months off and ready to talk once again about Change. As they get back to it, you hear the rust that needs to be worked through in Rod's dry monotone voice and you’ll smile as you’re reminded of the freshness of Lesley's trusty energy! These two talk a little about what has gone on over the past year, and what it is like to change from change.

Jun 14, 2023
Jun 14, 2023
29 min
In this episode, Rod and Lesley dive into the importance of having close friends to talk to - at work. To drive home the point, they use the popular Apple TV+ show Ted Lasso as their case study. Rod starts by stating his theory, that the TV show eerily mirror this Podcast. Ted Lasso started in August 2020, the Change Room Podcast started recording in August 2020 (with first airing in October). Story lines and topics parallel on the way so highlight just how we care about the same themes.
In the end, this episode is also Rod and Lesley's love letter of appreciation for Ted Lasso, and all the good it conveyed, especially the importance of having trusted friends that you can talk to when you need to get out of your own head.

May 31, 2023
May 31, 2023
24 min
In this episode, Rod and Lesley pick up from where they left off and continue to talk about Carl Jung's ideas. This time, they into the mystical subconscious. They talk about energy impulses that some think connect the us to the universe. This is the kind of topic that Rod probably wouldn't have known what to do with it a couple of years ago - but now, he is seeing how some of it comes together. As always, Lesley is a step ahead. References in the podcast to a discussion on 'Seek, and it will seek you' from way back in Season 1, Episode 40. The book - Midlife: Humanity's Secret Weapon by Andrew Jamieson. https://www.amazon.ca/Midlife-Humanitys-Secret-Andrew-Jamieson/dp/1912559382 (we have no referral payments set up) Pauli, refers to Wolfgang Pauli. Read more here on his and Jung's theory of Synchronicity - https://nautil.us/the-synchronicity-of-wolfgang-pauli-and-carl-jung-238037/

May 17, 2023
May 17, 2023
28 min
In this episode, Rod and Lesley go way back. They go to what could the origin story question 'can we change?' and reach back a 100 years to Carl Jung for help in answering the question. This topic was inspired from a book Rod is reading now called "Midlife : humanity's secret weapon" by Andrew Jamieson.
This is a deep thinking discussion into the subconscious, archetypes, and the mystical. All things Carl Jung explored from the camp of 'yes, we can change, but it takes a lot of work into self awareness and individuation'.
As always, Rod and Lesley make a big topic accessible and fun.

May 10, 2023
May 10, 2023
29 min
In this episode, Rod and Lesley pick up after a long break for the podcast with a topic they have discussed before - decision making. While Lesley remains confident in her decisive decision making approach, Rod has evolved. He explains what it feels like for someone who liked to leave their options open, to force themselves to pick a path. Transformative!
ps - stay tuned, Rod and Lesley are back and next week's episode is already recorded and it is profound, deep, and will be a classic. They ask the question 'is it even possible to change oneself. And in doing so, tap into Carl Jung for some guidance. Look for it next Wednesday.

Jan 18, 2023
Jan 18, 2023
31 min
In this episode, Rod and Lesley talk new year's resolutions and all things that make us not like them. The shift the focus on accepting best efforts versus hard smart goals. There is discussion about new year's reflections on do betters; all with a desire to avoid making ourselves feel worse when we don't follow through.

Dec 21, 2022
Dec 21, 2022
29 min
In this episode, Rod and Lesley take in something called, 'self-determination theory'. Rod did some deep research and set the stage by explaining the theory and Lesley brought it to life with some real life reactions and examples. For more of your own research, go to the source and check out this site here. https://selfdeterminationtheory.org/the-theory/

Dec 14, 2022
Dec 14, 2022
25 min
In this episode, Rod and Lesley take inspiration from Geena Davis' biography (Dying of Politeness) to discuss what it is like to be polite and unimposing in the world we live in. They wonder about people who aren't absorbed in worrying whether they have been impolite. Rod hasn't read the book in question but feels like he knows the subject intimately and has lots to say.

Dec 7, 2022
Dec 7, 2022
31 min
In this episode, Rod and Lesley talk about the times when it is good to choose happy over right. Right being the thing that we are sure is true and that needs to be imparted on those around us. As Lesley explains to Rod, sometimes, it is better to choose a good relationship than the need to be seen as right.

Oct 19, 2022
Oct 19, 2022
34 min
In this episode, Rod and Lesley continue the conversation on return to office. This time, they take the insights to a new level and realize some of the big barriers to getting people in the routine of returning to the office - one gem, too many decisions to make each day when switching up routines. Leslie still doesn't know the theme song to the Jetsons, but does show that this podcast might one day do an episode in the form of interpretative song.
