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Welcome to The Change Room with Rod & Lesley where we talk about how people experience and navigate through change.
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Oct 12, 2022
Oct 12, 2022
32 min
In this episode, Rod and Lesley continue with the theme of returning, and dive into the return to office and the future of work after the big, long, scary pandemic called COVID. Thinking about the future of work they see the Jetsons - and for those wondering what the theme song was, here it is - https://youtu.be/tTq6Tofmo7E They also discuss the balance and benefits between flexibility and routine and how people are experiencing the change.

Oct 6, 2022
Oct 6, 2022
22 min
In this episode, Rod and Lesley dive into the age old challenge of - getting back into the swing of things. Yes, they took the summer off. Yes, they 'relaxed', and 'recharged', and forgot all about podcasting. Getting back into the routine is hard, and this is a common challenge for anyone who is trying to make changes in life - when the reality is a 'change' is never something that sticks 100% of the time.

Oct 4, 2022
Oct 4, 2022
1 min
We're back! It was a long break for us but good to take the summer off and come back recharged. More episodes to come!

Mar 23, 2022
Mar 23, 2022
27 min
In this episode, Lesley takes the lead and walks Rod, and you listeners, through breathing training. Inhale 1 - 2 - 3; hold 1 - 2 - 3; exhale 1 - 2 - 3.... Rod asks the newbie questions, following Lesley's expert guidance to a calmer amygdala. A note to our faithful listeners... Rod and Lesley are taking a mid-season 2 intermission and will be back in a couple of months.

Mar 16, 2022
Mar 16, 2022
29 min
In this episode, Rod and Lesley dig deep into the vault of 1950s psychology experiments to talk about Cognitive Dissonance. This is a term is used to describe the mental discomfort that results from holding two conflicting beliefs, values, or attitudes. Rod and Lesley relate real examples of when this comes up, and how to spot these uncomfortable dissonance feelings - which is the first step into dealing with them.

Mar 10, 2022
Mar 10, 2022
31 min
In this episode, Rod and Lesley talk about their favourite biases. No, ones they like that we have, silly. The ones they think are worth knowing more about so we can start to overcome them. They discuss biases in recognition of March 8 and international women's day. The conversation gets into understanding micro aggressions, types on how to talk about them, and a recognition that we all have more to learn!

Mar 1, 2022
Mar 1, 2022
22 min
In this episode, Rod and Lesley discuss the change adoption curve (The innovation adoption curve). This is part two of two in the mini series that takes on well known models and helps you know their misinterpretations. The upside-down-U-bell-shaped curve that is taught ubiquitously through many change management courses. It is Rod's turn to go through a commonly known concept by those in the change field, and widely heard of term by everyone else - and bash it apart! Yes, it is intuitive to think there are early adopters to something, and there are laggards, or change resistors too. Listen to hear why this leads you down the wrong path and why not to take simple models too far.

Feb 21, 2022
Feb 21, 2022
26 min
In this episode, Rod and Lesley talk about something we all thought we knew - but were (mostly) wrong! Many of us have heard about the 80/20 rule. But, as Lesley will explain, it is really the 20/80 rule. And the origin was based on the idea that 20 percent effort leads to 80 percent of the outcome. This episode is the first of a mini series of two where your fearless hosts take on simple models that have lost their way and lead people to wrong ideas. Next week... the 'Change Curve'... from adopters to resisters.

Feb 10, 2022
Feb 10, 2022
31 min
In this episode, Rod and Lesley dive into the little bit messy conversation on forgiveness. Sharing experience that can help the process of forgiving others to move on from the negative shackles. As well as recognizing the importance of forgiving yourself when occasion arises.

Feb 2, 2022
Feb 2, 2022
32 min
In this episode, Rod and Lesley talk about projections. Not financial projections, but the psychological kind. In particular, sub-conscious projections that we humans put onto interpreting the intent, motivations, and behaviours of others. This wide ranging and open conversation is filled with questions with some answers. In the spirit of Bell Talk week, promoting awareness and reducing the stigma of mental health issues, this habit of humans to project is one that deserves better understanding.
